Our speaker guest Pakistan Women issues

I must say i did enjoy last class session when a Pakistan women came and talked about Pakistan and the treatment of women. I learned a lot about Pakistan and how Pakistan is moving forward and everyday women are moving up and taking control of very important political positions. I also learned about the Quran in more detail and how it really protects women and how it vouches for women in Islamic religion and culture. In the Quran their are passages that prove this for example:

" Surely women are the twin halves of men"

" O mankind, we created you from a single pair, of a male and female, and made you into nations and tribes that you may get to know one another."

So Quran teaches equality of women and the better treatment of women. The speaker Mrs. Gulnar she was great in many ways, but in some cases i found her rants a little two biased. I learned plenty but not as much as i thought i would. The main thing i learned is that the Quran favors women greatly and protects them, that was something i did not have knowledge of. But i had one big problem that quite frankly she did not answer well or with any facts at all. If you want to prove your point to me bring up facts dont try to justify the issues of pakistan and how women are really treated. I asked a question to the speaker and it goes a little like this " The Quran advocates the equality and treament of women, then why are women being treated with abuse and inequality, even if the Quran tries and tries to stand up for the rights of women ( 95% of Pakistanis follow the Quran as their guide and rules) why are women still beat, raped, and just treated like dogs. It seems that the women follow the Quran way more than men do it seems that men follow the Quran when it only is beneficial towards them.." She tried answering it but really didnt bring up any facts in some way she brought up excuses in my mind. I did bring up facts like that over 70% of women are being abused, beat, raped in Pakistan. I also said that 14 percent of young girls are not as nurtured and healthy than boys.. 14 percent girls more than boys, among other stats i brought up. So i asked why did this happen? She quite frankly brought up weak excuses that did not defend her point. She said that more women are getting and achieving more rights and are protected more. She also said she never heard of that stat that 70% percent of women are being abused she thought it was drastically less than that. But the facts are their. There are about 178 million people that live in Pakistan a little more than half women, so about 85 million Pakistanis are women if you take 70% of that 85 it would roughly give you 65-70 million women are abused and here is a link to prove my fact >>>http://www.ansarburney.org/womens_rights-violence.html

So it seems that she did not know her stats about Pakistan was well as the research i did before class. I was prepared quite frankly she was not. If she thought i was going to ask the easy cultural questions about her country then she was quite frankly mistaken, i wanted to ask the important questions, so i can have good answers. Another speaker also a woman from Pakistan joined in at the end and we kind of went back and forth with my question. She said that women are abused because of a cultural habit not a religious belief. She also said that 20% of men do not speak Arabic so they can not read the Quran becuase it is written in Arabic. She also did not believe my stats and facts. The main thing is i found some of their answers quite weak with no real substance to them. I smiled the entire time because they were having a little hard time with my long and repeated question. I know they are from Pakistan and they wanted to defend their country and justify the reason behind men abuse over women in Pakistan. I understood that 20% of men cant speak Arabic, also that men abuse women in a cultural and not religious stand point, quite frankly thats pathetic and this is why i say this. Ok 20% of men cant speak Arabic fine, where do you leave the other 80%???!?!?!??? Its ridiculous. Also she said that is it more tradition and culture when it comes to the treatment of women. Ok cool traditions.. But young kids will see how their father acts and treats their wives, they will imitate it continuing the "cultural custom/tradition" and they in a future will beat and abuse their own wives. So if the mother really has the power over their children in Pakistan (which is what the speaker said) why dont they go up to their sons when they are young and beat them upside the head and tell the " You see what your father just did to me, don't do it its disrespectful and your father was just angry, dont you ever hit a women" and then hit the upside the head so they remember. Kids will immitate and repeat women in Pakistan must chance their child view and imitation of women.

Their is one thing i learned above all in last lectured class, which was not said be neither of our special guest/speakers.. And it was that women in Pakistan its not that they are illiterate (cause a staggering number of women are un educated) or they dont know their rights quite frankly women in Pakistan are ignorant! And i dont mean to be rude but it is quite frankly the truth you dont have to stand up to society to teach your own kids what is right and wrong you teach your child how to treat women how to cherish women how to grow up a man not a coward. And i hate absolutely hate these little excuses by the speakers.. I dont need to read a piece of paper of a book to know and understand how to treat women i know whats right and wrong! (going back to the relation of 20% of men cant read the Quran because they are illiterate and cant speak the language) I dont need to read any material to know that!!! Thats the bottom line!!

Women are the most important thing on the face of this earth men are nothing without women, women are Gods greatest gift to man, and they should be treated like Queens. I am all for women and their right. But men in Pakistan seem to not follow their own religion and the Quran. Men are quite frankly disgusting (but im not going to put every pakistani man in this category, some are actually good, but most are not) they are stupid. But im not going to let the Pakistani women of the hook either. Women is Pakistani seem to be ignorant to the facts i undertand that they are many that cant read and dont know their own rights but bottom line is if women have all the power to raise the kids inside the household then women should break this evil cycle of beating up women through raising their young boys to know what is right and wrong what is ethical and not. Women are ignorant and are quite conformed with the way they are treated and that is sad, very sad, and i take pity on them for it. Hopefully this can change sooner than later.....